[Dstar] DV Dongle ???

[Richard Hoskin]

Pat,

 

I think most people on this list have had enough of this discussion.

 

If you want to continue with this please do it via private email.

 

Cheers

Richard

VK3JFK

 

 

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From: Patrick Goda [mailto:vk8faab at internode.on.net] 
Sent: Friday, 29 August 2008 1:50 PM
To: vk3jfk at wia.org.au; 'Dstar Digital Radio Mail List'
Subject: RE: [Dstar] DV Dongle ???

 

Yes but Richard you must understand that if they really really REALLY want
to use a DV DONGLE or transmit using DSTAR.they will.  I would like to know
what is in place to stop non amateur from going and buying themselves a
DSTAR radio, or any radio that will transmit on amateur frequencies?  

 

>From what it sounds like you have some double standards going on there, You
have put these drastic measures in place to stop non authorized DV Dongle
users from accessing Australian repeaters but what measures are you going to
put in place to stop non licensed people from buying transceiver's (or a DV
Dongle) that are capable of transmitting on Amateur frequencies?  I don't
see you doing anything about that?  

 

Yes I can understand and firmly believe in the importance of only allowing
licensed people access to Amateur radio frequencies but your taking this way
too far, and giving Australia and D-Star a bad name at the same time.  You
are also making D-Star difficult for anyone else to use.  You are imposing
all these "crazy" rules and regulations which deter new D-Star users from
even getting involved in the technology.  Not only that but the rest of the
world thinks' Australia has a joke of a communication authority, all because
of you.

 

Now this is a quote taken from the Amateur LCD "

 

11A, (2) The licensee must not, directly or indirectly, connect the station
to a public

telecommunications network, unless the licensee has implemented

reasonable measures to ensure that only appropriately licensed persons

access the station to transmit a signal to another amateur station. "

 

Now what do you define as reasonable measures?  I don't really think you
have any, you just like to make things difficult.  Let me tell you what I
believe reasonable measures are, they are:

1.       Well designed and secure software

a.       Now Dplus has been well designed and very secure, in fact there is
a section in the dplus.conf file that specifically relates to blocking other
Dstar repeaters, perhaps you could put your "list" of un-secured repeaters
in there?

2.       Dplus has an allowed users section, capable of supporting passwords

a.       Why not give everyone one of your D-Star users a password?  Would
that put your mind at ease? Or too much work for one person to do?

3.       Tell me, who in there right mind would go out and spend $200+ for a
DV dongle or $700+ on an ICOM 2820

a.       To me that is another really good deterrent of stopping non
authorized users.

 

I'm only thinking in reasonable and sensible though here Richard, it's not
hard to do.

 

 

-Pat

 

 

 

 

From: dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au [mailto:dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au]
On Behalf Of Richard Hoskin
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:10 PM
To: 'Dstar Digital Radio Mail List'
Subject: RE: [Dstar] DV Dongle ???

 

Patrick,

 

If you are familiar with the Amateur LCD section 11A (2) written by the ACMA
you will understand the conditions under which the licence for VK8RAD (and
all other repeaters) is issued and the responsibilities of the licensee of
the repeater.

 

After consultation with the WIA and awareness of the LCD licensees
obligations to comply with the regulations it was decided the best course of
action was to temporarily suspend DV-Dongle and linking on the repeaters.

 

Cheers

Richard

 

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From: dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au [mailto:dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au]
On Behalf Of Patrick Goda
Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2008 1:20 PM
To: 'Dstar Digital Radio Mail List'
Subject: [Dstar] DV Dongle ???

 

To Richard,

 

I was wondering when you would be telling the Australian community about
your latest decision as Australian D-Star Coordinator? Seems quite unfair as
to what you have done and not put it up for any discussion?  And I thought
WIA in conjunction with the ACMA were suppose to be making these types of
decisions, not you?

 

I think we all deserve an explanation.  And just so you are aware, VK8RAD is
not administered by you, so your rule's do not apply to us and yes, we are a
part of Australia.

 

-Pat

VK8FAAB

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