[Dstar] Re: Dstar Digest, Vol 19, Issue 6
Jon Guy
jonsavina at gmail.com
Thu Mar 5 22:36:46 CST 2009
Thanks Very much Nic.
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> From: Jon Guy <jonsavina at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Dstar] Ic92AD Cloneing.
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> Hi all purchased an opc1799 cable today 75.00 WOW anyway do I also need
> remote software to gain icf file transfer please.
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> Jon
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> From: "Nik Presser" <nikp007 at bigpond.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dstar] Re: Dstar Digest, Vol 19, Issue 4
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> G'day Jon,
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> Yes, you will need the 92AD software. An Icom dealer should be able to send
> you the software either via email or CD.
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> Cheers,
>
> Nik Presser
> VK3NJP
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> From: Jon Guy
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> Ic 92AD and OPC1799
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> Hello bought a Cloneing cable today $75.00 to clone latest icf files. do I
> also need the 92ad software.
> Please advise thanks
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> Jon
> VK6 NOW
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> 1. RE: Registration (Michael.Boudreaux at emerson.com)
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> 3. RE: Registration (David Tilson)
> 4. RE: Registration (David Tilson)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:08:36 +1100
> From: <Michael.Boudreaux at emerson.com>
> Subject: RE: [Dstar] Registration
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> Hello David,
> Thanks for the info, but as a new user a few days old I could not know
> of events in the past. I only found this group by accident (goggle
> search). Also I suggest your last sentence is not quite correct as ICOM
> (commercial) has plenty to gain from hardware sales. Thanks again
> VK3XZ Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au
> [mailto:dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au] On Behalf Of David Tilson
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 March 2009 9:38 AM
> To: Dstar Digital Radio Mail List
> Subject: RE: [Dstar] Registration
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> Mike,
>
> In answer to your question:
> Richard Hoskin advised, via this group, that the Gateway server had been
> repaired on 24 Feb and that it he hoped it would be returned to the site
> in the next few weeks. He had set it up at a temporary location to
> allow people to re-register.
>
> He then advised on 2 March that it had been taken offline, from its
> temporary location, in preparation for relocation back to the repeater
> site in the near future.
>
> The Gateway had suffered a major problem originally requiring a complete
> rebuild. Since Richard's email on 24 Feb there has been a
> teleconference with a number of D-STAR Gateway administrators from
> around Australia and work has been undertaken by several people to
> develop and test backup and recovery scripts. This has been designed to
> minimise the impact if this unfortunate event occurs again. All of this
> takes time. In most circumstances each visit to a repeater site takes
> at least 1/2 day, so it makes more sense to plan and prepare properly,
> than to rush a service back into operation which will probably require
> further visits. Please remember that this is a hobby and people do
> things when they can, unless of course you would like to start paying
> commercial rates for a commercial grade of service.
>
> Regards,
>
> David Tilson, VK3UR
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au
> > [mailto:dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au] On Behalf Of
> > Michael.Boudreaux at emerson.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, 4 March 2009 7:17 AM
> > To: dstar at lists.wia.org.au
> > Subject: RE: [Dstar] Registration
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> > Good comments but the fact is I still cannot register and no
> > one has answer my question about when will the server be back
> > so I can register? Seems there is no urgency in repairing the
> > server. I think this reflects poorly on DSTAR. 73 Mike VK3XZ
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:40:02 +1030
> From: Michael Carey <michaelcarey at internode.on.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dstar] Registration
> To: Dstar Digital Radio Mail List <dstar at lists.wia.org.au>
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> Ah yes, you might buy an Icom D-Star rig for X number of dollars, but
> you do not otherwise pay for a radio communication service (apart from
> your licence fee and possibly WIA membership) that allows you to talk
> around the world with like minded people.
> If you wanted a commercial two-way radio service with this capability
> you would have a multi-million dollar bill and then the ongoing costs on
> top of that... or you could just pick up a phone.
> You gotta remember that this is amateur radio... VHF and UHF repeaters,
> IRLP nodes, APRS Igates, Echolink nodes are generally funded and
> maintained by individuals or small groups, they take time and money to
> maintain.
> If you aren't happy with the way the VK3RWN gateway server crash
> recovery has progressed this last month, I'm sure Richard would love to
> have other people willing to lend a hand, learn the ins and outs of a
> D-Star gateway and donate their time when things go wrong.
> I personally maintain a 2m repeater, a 70cm repeater, an IRLP node, an
> APRS Igate, two APRS digipeaters, a 70cm D-Star repeater and all the
> hardware needed to make these all things operate, plus I work 60+ hours
> a week at my job.
> These services are all here in the Port Lincoln area, free for any
> visiting amateur radio operator to use at any time... but if they start
> to complain because the IRLP node is down and I take a few days to fix
> it... then they will gently be shown the door, this is my hobby, not my
> life.
> Sorry for the rant...
> Michael.
> VK5ZEA
>
>
> Michael.Boudreaux at emerson.com wrote:
> > Hello David,
> > Thanks for the info, but as a new user a few days old I could not know
> > of events in the past. I only found this group by accident (goggle
> > search). Also I suggest your last sentence is not quite correct as
> ICOM
> > (commercial) has plenty to gain from hardware sales. Thanks again
> > VK3XZ Mike
> >
> >
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:06:06 +1100
> From: "David Tilson" <dave at daves-portal.com>
> Subject: RE: [Dstar] Registration
> To: "Dstar Digital Radio Mail List" <dstar at lists.wia.org.au>
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> Mike,
>
> Welcome to the group and I hope you enjoy your time on D-STAR.
>
> You can view previous emails and postings, which I think is always worth
> while when I first join a group, by looking at:
> http://lists.wia.org.au/pipermail/dstar/ This is also indicated on the
> D-STAR Mailing List subscription page.
>
> Regards,
>
> Davidt, VK3UR
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au
> > [mailto:dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au] On Behalf Of
> > Michael.Boudreaux at emerson.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, 4 March 2009 3:09 PM
> > To: dstar at lists.wia.org.au
> > Subject: RE: [Dstar] Registration
> >
> >
> > Hello David,
> > Thanks for the info, but as a new user a few days old I could
> > not know of events in the past. I only found this group by
> > accident (goggle search).
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:12:00 +1100
> From: "David Tilson" <dave at daves-portal.com>
> Subject: RE: [Dstar] Registration
> To: "Dstar Digital Radio Mail List" <dstar at lists.wia.org.au>
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> James,
>
> I'll break this reply up into a few sections to try to answer your
> question.
>
> To talk locally through your local D-STAR repeater you do not have to be
> registered on the D-STAR G2 network. Even if you place the local
> Gateway callsign (eg: VK2RDS G (South Sydney)) in RPT2 you will not be
> heard outside of the local D-STAR repeater, except by users of DV
> Dongles. However any DPRS (GPS) information will be picked up by the
> dPLUS application (if it is running on the local Gateway computer) and
> transfer positional information across to the APRS-IS.
>
> Technically you can be registered on any D-STAR G2 Gateway around the
> world, however the common and generally accepted international practice
> is to be registered through your local Gateway, which allows details to
> be locally validated. Once registered your callsign will be propagated
> (over a few hours) to all of the other D-STAR G2 Gateways, around the
> world and you will be able to access any system through any
> appropriately configured G2 Gateway and people will be able to find you.
> Which-ever Gateway you register on, will be the one that you need to
> perform any of your account management in the future. This could be
> problematic if, for some reason, the Gateway system you originally
> registered on is removed from service.
>
> So, hopefully, to put an answer in context of your question... During an
> emergency:
> You don't need to be registered to use a local D-STAR repeater to talk
> with local stations; however if you need access to the rest of the
> national / international D-STAR network, or its features (Reflectors,
> etc), you will need to be registered on a G2 Gateway somewhere.
>
> An example of this could be where the portable D-STAR repeater, VK3RWW
> B, is deployed to provide temporary coverage to an affected area. The
> portable repeater can be connected, through its G2 Gateway computer, to
> the rest of the D-STAR network via either an existing broadband internet
> connection, or via its internal 3G wireless modem (provided it is
> available). Once the internet connection has been established the G2
> Gateway computer will propagate its details to the rest of the G2
> network and (hopefully) within approx 2 - 4 hours it will know how to
> route to the rest of the D-STAR network and the rest of the D-STAR
> network will know how to route calls to VK3RWW B. This has been shown
> to be quite successful at a number of Hamfests / Field days, etc over
> the last 12 months, but to the best of my knowledge, hasn't yet been
> used during any emergency response. In this instance new registrations
> could be processed locally, to provide immediate temporary access to the
> rest of the network.
>
> I hope this answers your question.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Davidt, VK3UR
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au
> > [mailto:dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au] On Behalf Of James Cameron
> > Sent: Wednesday, 4 March 2009 9:34 AM
> > To: Dstar Digital Radio Mail List
> > Subject: Re: [Dstar] Registration
> >
> >
> > Does use of the entire network depend on this registration?
> > Or only the gateway? I'm thinking in terms of what it would
> > take during an emergency to gain access.
> >
> > (VK2LQZ ... an RFS volunteer, ICC radio).
> >
> > --
> > James Cameron
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:15:55 +1100
> From: <Michael.Boudreaux at emerson.com>
> Subject: RE: [Dstar] Registration
> To: <dstar at lists.wia.org.au>
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> Thanks to all in this group. I do plan to be of as much assistance as
> possible once I learn the ropes. Thanks again to all who help me as I
> am now registered. 73 Mike VK3XZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au
> [mailto:dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au] On Behalf Of David Tilson
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 March 2009 8:06 PM
> To: Dstar Digital Radio Mail List
> Subject: RE: [Dstar] Registration
>
> Mike,
>
> Welcome to the group and I hope you enjoy your time on D-STAR.
>
> You can view previous emails and postings, which I think is always worth
> while when I first join a group, by looking at:
> http://lists.wia.org.au/pipermail/dstar/ This is also indicated on the
> D-STAR Mailing List subscription page.
>
> Regards,
>
> Davidt, VK3UR
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au
> > [mailto:dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au] On Behalf Of
> > Michael.Boudreaux at emerson.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, 4 March 2009 3:09 PM
> > To: dstar at lists.wia.org.au
> > Subject: RE: [Dstar] Registration
> >
> >
> > Hello David,
> > Thanks for the info, but as a new user a few days old I could
> > not know of events in the past. I only found this group by
> > accident (goggle search).
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:07:57 +1100
> From: James Cameron <quozl at us.netrek.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dstar] Registration
> To: Dstar Digital Radio Mail List <dstar at lists.wia.org.au>
> Message-ID: <20090304220757.GA7305 at us.netrek.org>
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> Thanks David, that's a comprehensive reply that answers my questions
> well. In summary, registration is a gating factor for routing between
> repeaters ... or to put it another way, registration permits emission of
> RF on a non-local repeater. The latter being the regulatory framework
> impinging on the design.
>
> --
> James Cameron mailto:quozl at us.netrek.org
> http://quozl.netrek.org/
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:31:52 +1100
> From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed at gmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [Dstar] Registration
> To: Dstar Digital Radio Mail List <dstar at lists.wia.org.au>
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> At 07:15 AM 3/5/2009, you wrote:
> >Thanks to all in this group. I do plan to be of as much assistance as
> >possible once I learn the ropes. Thanks again to all who help me as I
> >am now registered. 73 Mike VK3XZ
>
> Welcome to D-STAR Mike. :)
>
> 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
> http://vkradio.com
>
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