[Dstar] D-Plus Dashboards for VK - some have dissappeared

Sat Mar 28 19:05:29 EST 2009

The thing is Ben, the locals don't "need" to change, but they shouldn't 
stop those wishing to experiment with new modes from doing so... this is 
something new, it's not too scary and it's lots of fun.  I heard someone 
on our 2m repeater a few months ago who thinks that FM, repeaters and 
internet linking is a waste of time and anyone who doesn't know morse 
code isn't an amateur operator. This is the WRONG attitude.

Surely someone in Mount Gambier has an ADSL connection that they don't 
max out every month, a single repeater module doesn't use that much 
bandwidth. Maybe someone there can build up a DV Node Adapter and get a 
local Dplus hot spot on-air on a simplex frequency at the clubs 
headquarters. How many have D-Star radios in town and the immediate area?
If I make it to the convention this year, I will bring some of my home 
brew D-Star gear along to set up at the scout hall. There are lots of 
guys out there building D-Star gear, a lot of it isn't any more 
complicated than a PIC based repeater controller.
SERG had better hurry up, the half price for clubs D-Star deal is ending 
at the end of the financial year. Time to embrace the future! (-:

Michael.
VK5ZEA

Ben Lindner-VK5JFK wrote:
> I am about to embark on getting the South East Radio Group - Mount 
> Gambier,SA to embrace DStar. This will not be easy as everyone is 
> always talking cost and bandwidth that is needed, plus some people 
> dont like change and cant see why we need to change. It will be 
> difficult, but I will give it a go.
>
> cheers all
> Ben Lindner
> VK5JFK
>
> Nik Presser wrote:
>> G'day Richard and everyone on the list...
>>  
>> What level of ADSL service is connected to the WIA repeaters? If it's 
>> not enough or the initial connection was ok at the time but not now, 
>> maybe it could then be increased. The tools that had been available 
>> until very recently certainly increased one's understanding of how 
>> D-Star works and what's currently linked to where. This awareness 
>> also reduced the likelyhood of someone barging in on someone else's 
>> QSO unintentionally as well as wasting time putting out calls on a 
>> repeater that one may have thought was linked elsewhere but in fact 
>> is not.
>>  
>> I think anything that comes along that enhances the enjoyment of 
>> D-Star operation is a good thing and should be embraced and not 
>> restricted. We need to attract more users to D-Star and encourage 
>> further operating activity. Current D-Star repeater utilisation is 
>> low and we need to get some new people in and amongst it. We need to 
>> show the benefits and demonstrate that D-Star is a leap ahead of 
>> operating on FM repeaters. It's a battle to promote D-Star amongst 
>> the slow adopters. When trying to sell, educate or demonstrate to 
>> possible new operators about the concept of D-Star, it can be 
>> frustrating at times to understand what the network is doing at a 
>> given point in time if some of the previously available tools are no 
>> longer available to all except admins. We've got to demonstrate the 
>> advantages of D-Star.
>>  
>> If bandwidth is the issue, then perhaps this should be looked at. Do 
>> the admins around VK have regular chats/meetings to exchange ideas & 
>> issues or has there been a post-implementation review on D-Star 
>> nationally now that this mode has been available in Australia now for 
>> approx 18 months?
>>  
>> I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has any other ideas or 
>> suggestions, user feedback, etc. I'm certainly all for D-Star and 
>> just trying to understand it better. Having the loan of a DV-Dongle 
>> for the past week has also increased my D-Star knowledge somewhat. If 
>> others are remotely interested in the DV-Dongle, go for it! :-) It's 
>> another handy tool and complements the current offering of D-Star 
>> radio's.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>>  
>> Nik Presser
>> VK3NJP
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     *From:* Richard Hoskin <mailto:vk3jfk at amsat.org>
>>     *To:* 'Dstar Digital Radio Mail List' 
>> <mailto:dstar at lists.wia.org.au>
>>     *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:33 PM
>>     *Subject:* RE: [Dstar] D-Plus Dashboards for VK - some have
>>     dissappeared
>>
>>     Hi Nick,
>>
>>     
>>     All WIA VK D-Star repeaters have limited ADSL bandwidth at the
>>     repeater site. The ADSL bandwidth is primarily reserved for
>>     repeater DV & DD communications.
>>
>>     
>>     When the D-Plus dashboards pages are available, ADSL bandwidth for
>>     DV & DD communications is reduced especially on the uplink, as the
>>     connected web browsers are frequently downloading the D-Plus
>>     dashboard pages from the Gateway server. This causes degradation
>>     (R2D2, Jitter & slow voices) on the DV communications channels
>>     when the local repeater becomes busy. The degradation is
>>     especially noticeable for DV-Dongle users.
>>
>>     
>>     As Most of the information that was on the D-Plus dashboards is
>>     available from other sources such as
>>     http://www.jfindu.net/dstarlh.aspx?rptr=VK3RWN,
>>     http://www.dstarusers.org/viewrepeater.php?system=VK2RWN etc. the
>>     lack of a dashboard is not critical to the dissemination of D-Star
>>     information.
>>
>>     
>>     Cheers
>>
>>     Richard
>>
>>     VK3JFK
>>
>>     
>>     
>>     
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>     *From:* dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au
>>     [mailto:dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au] *On Behalf Of *Nik Presser
>>     *Sent:* Thursday, 26 March 2009 6:29 PM
>>     *To:* dstar at lists.wia.org.au
>>     *Subject:* [Dstar] D-Plus Dashboards for VK - some have dissappeared
>>
>>     
>>     Hi all,
>>
>>     
>>     Has anyone else noticed that some of the have dissappeared?? Does
>>     anyone know why and when they might be back up again? It made a
>>     hell of a difference when they were available. Now it's a guessing
>>     game again...
>>
>>     
>>     Cheers,
>>
>>     
>>     Nik Presser
>>
>>     VK3NJP
>>
>>     
>>     
>>     
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