[Dstar] D-Plus Dashboards for VK - some have dissappeared

Michael Carey michaelcarey at internode.on.net
Sat Mar 28 20:34:43 EST 2009 

No problem Ben, there is a 50% chance we will be making the trip. It all 
depends on how well the newly arrived young son will travel.


Ben Lindner-VK5JFK wrote:
> Thanks Michael,
>
> No one here has any DStar radio stuff at present that I'm aware of.
>
> It would be great if you come down in June and set up some of the 
> equipment. I will inform SERG of such a display as convention planning 
> is under way.
>
> cheers
> Ben
>
> Michael Carey wrote:
>> The thing is Ben, the locals don't "need" to change, but they 
>> shouldn't stop those wishing to experiment with new modes from doing 
>> so... this is something new, it's not too scary and it's lots of 
>> fun.  I heard someone on our 2m repeater a few months ago who thinks 
>> that FM, repeaters and internet linking is a waste of time and anyone 
>> who doesn't know morse code isn't an amateur operator. This is the 
>> WRONG attitude.
>>
>> Surely someone in Mount Gambier has an ADSL connection that they 
>> don't max out every month, a single repeater module doesn't use that 
>> much bandwidth. Maybe someone there can build up a DV Node Adapter 
>> and get a local Dplus hot spot on-air on a simplex frequency at the 
>> clubs headquarters. How many have D-Star radios in town and the 
>> immediate area?
>> If I make it to the convention this year, I will bring some of my 
>> home brew D-Star gear along to set up at the scout hall. There are 
>> lots of guys out there building D-Star gear, a lot of it isn't any 
>> more complicated than a PIC based repeater controller.
>> SERG had better hurry up, the half price for clubs D-Star deal is 
>> ending at the end of the financial year. Time to embrace the future! (-:
>>
>> Michael.
>> VK5ZEA
>>
>>
>> Ben Lindner-VK5JFK wrote:
>>> I am about to embark on getting the South East Radio Group - Mount 
>>> Gambier,SA to embrace DStar. This will not be easy as everyone is 
>>> always talking cost and bandwidth that is needed, plus some people 
>>> dont like change and cant see why we need to change. It will be 
>>> difficult, but I will give it a go.
>>>
>>> cheers all
>>> Ben Lindner
>>> VK5JFK
>>>
>>> Nik Presser wrote:
>>>> G'day Richard and everyone on the list...
>>>>  
>>>> What level of ADSL service is connected to the WIA repeaters? If 
>>>> it's not enough or the initial connection was ok at the time but 
>>>> not now, maybe it could then be increased. The tools that had been 
>>>> available until very recently certainly increased one's 
>>>> understanding of how D-Star works and what's currently linked to 
>>>> where. This awareness also reduced the likelyhood of someone 
>>>> barging in on someone else's QSO unintentionally as well as wasting 
>>>> time putting out calls on a repeater that one may have thought was 
>>>> linked elsewhere but in fact is not.
>>>>  
>>>> I think anything that comes along that enhances the enjoyment of 
>>>> D-Star operation is a good thing and should be embraced and not 
>>>> restricted. We need to attract more users to D-Star and encourage 
>>>> further operating activity. Current D-Star repeater utilisation is 
>>>> low and we need to get some new people in and amongst it. We need 
>>>> to show the benefits and demonstrate that D-Star is a leap ahead of 
>>>> operating on FM repeaters. It's a battle to promote D-Star amongst 
>>>> the slow adopters. When trying to sell, educate or demonstrate to 
>>>> possible new operators about the concept of D-Star, it can be 
>>>> frustrating at times to understand what the network is doing at a 
>>>> given point in time if some of the previously available tools are 
>>>> no longer available to all except admins. We've got to demonstrate 
>>>> the advantages of D-Star.
>>>>  
>>>> If bandwidth is the issue, then perhaps this should be looked at. 
>>>> Do the admins around VK have regular chats/meetings to exchange 
>>>> ideas & issues or has there been a post-implementation review on 
>>>> D-Star nationally now that this mode has been available in 
>>>> Australia now for approx 18 months?
>>>>  
>>>> I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has any other ideas or 
>>>> suggestions, user feedback, etc. I'm certainly all for D-Star and 
>>>> just trying to understand it better. Having the loan of a DV-Dongle 
>>>> for the past week has also increased my D-Star knowledge somewhat. 
>>>> If others are remotely interested in the DV-Dongle, go for it! :-) 
>>>> It's another handy tool and complements the current offering of 
>>>> D-Star radio's.
>>>>  
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>  
>>>> Nik Presser
>>>> VK3NJP
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>>     *From:* Richard Hoskin <mailto:vk3jfk at amsat.org>
>>>>     *To:* 'Dstar Digital Radio Mail List' 
>>>> <mailto:dstar at lists.wia.org.au>
>>>>     *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:33 PM
>>>>     *Subject:* RE: [Dstar] D-Plus Dashboards for VK - some have
>>>>     dissappeared
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Nick,
>>>>
>>>>         All WIA VK D-Star repeaters have limited ADSL bandwidth at the
>>>>     repeater site. The ADSL bandwidth is primarily reserved for
>>>>     repeater DV & DD communications.
>>>>
>>>>         When the D-Plus dashboards pages are available, ADSL 
>>>> bandwidth for
>>>>     DV & DD communications is reduced especially on the uplink, as the
>>>>     connected web browsers are frequently downloading the D-Plus
>>>>     dashboard pages from the Gateway server. This causes degradation
>>>>     (R2D2, Jitter & slow voices) on the DV communications channels
>>>>     when the local repeater becomes busy. The degradation is
>>>>     especially noticeable for DV-Dongle users.
>>>>
>>>>         As Most of the information that was on the D-Plus 
>>>> dashboards is
>>>>     available from other sources such as
>>>>     http://www.jfindu.net/dstarlh.aspx?rptr=VK3RWN,
>>>>     http://www.dstarusers.org/viewrepeater.php?system=VK2RWN etc. the
>>>>     lack of a dashboard is not critical to the dissemination of D-Star
>>>>     information.
>>>>
>>>>         Cheers
>>>>
>>>>     Richard
>>>>
>>>>     VK3JFK
>>>>
>>>>             
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     *From:* dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au
>>>>     [mailto:dstar-bounces at lists.wia.org.au] *On Behalf Of *Nik Presser
>>>>     *Sent:* Thursday, 26 March 2009 6:29 PM
>>>>     *To:* dstar at lists.wia.org.au
>>>>     *Subject:* [Dstar] D-Plus Dashboards for VK - some have 
>>>> dissappeared
>>>>
>>>>         Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>         Has anyone else noticed that some of the have 
>>>> dissappeared?? Does
>>>>     anyone know why and when they might be back up again? It made a
>>>>     hell of a difference when they were available. Now it's a guessing
>>>>     game again...
>>>>
>>>>         Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>         Nik Presser
>>>>
>>>>     VK3NJP
>>>>
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